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[07-XX]Lancer CYxA Techniczne - Instalacja gazowa - LPG - Lancer CYxA

krzychu - 08-06-2009, 21:18

jaca71 napisał/a:

Czy sonda lambda rozpoznaje w ogóle kaloryczność? Lambda moim zdaniem koryguje sprzężeniem zwrotnym skład mieszanki. Dodatkowo gaz ma wyższa liczbę oktanową więc żadne czujniki spalania detonacyjnego nawet nie zadziałają.


Lamba wykrywa ilość tlenu. Mniejsza kaloryczność -> więcej tlenu w spalinach -> zwiększenie dawki przez elektronikę. No i na odwrót.

jaca71 - 08-06-2009, 21:18

krzychu napisał/a:
jaca71 napisał/a:
EGR


O ile mi wiadomo chodzi o ekologię a nie o temperaturę która się zwiększa (w niektórych silnikach spaliny które wracają do silnika są chłodzone przez specjalnie zaprojektowany powrót np. przez głowicę tak jest chyba w 1,3 MultiJecie).

Zbyt wysoka temperatura spalania - rośnie ilość tlenków azotu, EGR wraca spaliny obniżając tę temperaturę. Jedyny czujnik jaki steruje EGRem to czujnik temperatury nic nie mierzy tlenków azotu... Przynajmniej tak było u Opla. Nie wiem jak rozwiązali to Japończycy.

[ Dodano: 08-06-2009, 21:19 ]
krzychu napisał/a:
Lamba wykrywa ilość tlenu. Mniejsza kaloryczność -> więcej tlenu w spalinach -> zwiększenie dawki przez elektronikę. No i na odwrót.

Jeśli mierzy tlen to ok.

spowiednik - 08-06-2009, 21:21

Jackie, jaka jest różnica miedzy LPG a Autogazem? W/g mojej wiedzy jedno i drugie to mieszanina propan-butan
Jackie - 08-06-2009, 21:29

spowiednik, owszem ale LPG ma ustalone proporcje a Auto Gaz już nie ;)
Pozdrawiam

tojaro - 08-06-2009, 21:31

Ale wątek odżył :) Tak więc mam rozumieć, że silniki w miśkach w krajach na wschód od Odry mają twardsze głowice? Dlatego z tego powodu oraz słabej mieszanki gazu nie można instalować LPI? Kurcze, to znaczy, że jakbym kupił w Germanii w ASO MMC samochód z LPI i jeździł u nas to maszyna by mi padła będąc na gwarancji - no tak, chyba że w gwarancji jest napisane: nie tankować w Polsce! Jelsi by tak było - to trochę nie fair. Może jeszcze coś innego mamy innego niż ci na zachodzie w swoich maszynach... tylko ciekawe co.

Panowie, mi nie chodzi o to czy u Nas w ASO umieją serwisować LPI czy też nie - ale o ich informacje na początku posta - te zaznaczone na czerwono. Nie jeździ na gazie a u innych jeździ bo maja inne silniki. To mam inny silnik? O co chodzi z tą informacją?

krzychu - 08-06-2009, 21:34

tojaro napisał/a:
Ale wątek odżył :) Tak więc mam rozumieć, że silniki w miśkach w krajach na wschód od Odry mają twardsze głowice?


Z tego co zrozumiałem tam można zamówić z głowicą pod LPG. Jak stwierdził Tomek u nas też.

tojaro napisał/a:
Może jeszcze coś innego mamy innego niż ci na zachodzie w swoich maszynach... tylko ciekawe co.


W dieslach na niemcy jest DPF. Na Polskę podobno nie ma.

tojaro napisał/a:
To mam inny silnik? O co chodzi z tą informacją?


Głowica z innego materiału jak rozumie gniazda zaworowe bardziej odporne na wyższa temperaturę. Silnik taki sam.

spowiednik - 08-06-2009, 21:39

Z tymi proporcjami to pobożne życzenia (w naszym kraju), grunt to nie mieć w zimie zbyt dużej zawartości butanu (o co teoretycznie łatwo bo jest tańszy). Latem to nie ma znaczenia bo na każdym pojedziesz. Przymusowy postój nie przydarzył mi się nigdy mimo ponad 30 stopniowych mrozów, więc może nie jest u nas tak źle? :-)
Pozdro

tojaro - 08-06-2009, 21:44

Krzychu to rozumiem, można zamówić głowice pod LPG - ale nie rozumiem dlaczego pytając o taką możliwość MMC Polska otrzymuję taką informację:

Niniejszy samochód nie jest przystosowany do montażu instalacji gazowej.
> Właściciel może podjąć taka decyzje wyłącznie na własną odpowiedzialność.

To oni nie wiedzą co można, co oferują czy pisał to jakiś nieuk co przespał szkolenie?

spowiednik - 08-06-2009, 21:50

Instalacja LPI to pewnie z 7-8kpln kosztuje, ale jazda może być interesująca. Tylko kiedy to się zwróci...
krzychu - 08-06-2009, 21:51

Jak by napisali "nie ma problemu" potem zamontował byś gaz za 2000zł u gazownika za rogu wypaliło by gniazda zaworowy. Pojechał byś do ASO oni odmówili by naprawy gwarancyjnej i wtedy poszedł byś do sądu z tym mailem może by Ci się udało wygrać... Tak jak to widzę. Po prostu takie przyjmują stanowisko. Ale ja się nie znam.
Anonymous - 08-06-2009, 22:26

Wtrace sie co nieco bo w innym temacie nie dostalem satysfakcjonujacej wypowiedzi :)

Jak to jest?Czy jest mozliwe aby sekwencyjna instalacja(w miare nowa 2007) mogla dobierac niewlasciwa mieszanke gazu powodujac wypalenie zaworow?
Przelicza chyba sklad mieszanki gazu na podstawie mapy wtryskow benzynowych?Czy sie myle?

krzychu - 08-06-2009, 22:45

Nie mylisz się, ale z tego co wiem to po prostu chodzi o precyzję a to przeliczanie, czasy otwarcia i wyprzedzenie już ustawia człowiek. Do tego reżim technologiczny wtryskiwaczy gazu (to żeby wszystkie zamontowane w danym silniku działały tak samo) też nie jest tak dobry jak w fabrycznych wtryskach benzynowych. Do tego precyzja zainstalowanie instalacji itd itp.
tomekrvf - 08-06-2009, 22:48

tojaro napisał/a:
Krzychu to rozumiem, można zamówić głowice pod LPG - ale nie rozumiem dlaczego pytając o taką możliwość MMC Polska otrzymuję taką informację:

tojaro, głowica do Lancera kosztuje 9700PLN, zawory średnio po 200PLN sztuka + uszczelki daje całkiem niezłą sumę. Jak zareagowałbyś jakbyś dostał z MMC odpowiedź że jak wydasz około 13000PLN to możesz bez odaw latać na LPG? Tyl musiałbyś wydać chcąc jeździć na LPG bez obaw o uszkodzenie głowicy. Jest możliwość? Jest.

Panowie, są samochody dla których nie pomoże nawet najlepsza instalacja X generacji albo inne cuda - prędzej czy później dojdzie do wypalenia zaworów. Jak już wczesniej gdzieś pisałem, rozmawiałem na ten temat z ludźmi z Prinsa i Vialle. Te firmy mają nawet listy problematycznych samochodów ze względu na przyspieszone zużycie gniazd i zaworów i do tej grupy zaliczany jest Lancer bez opcji gazowej.
Dla zainteresowanych mogę wysłać listę aut które Prins uważa za "problematyczne"
Albo wstawię tutaj :D







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-Contentsand disclaimer
-Overview valve/seat problems
-Overview injector module problems
-Overview petrol fuel gauge problems
-Overview fuel pressure problems
-Overview miscellaneousproblems





Brand
Model
Year of construction
Engine code
Engine capacity
Edition
Problem description
Solution
Remarks
Information source (Prins or customer)

Audi
Different types
BSE
1600 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Cylinderhead Mexico
Customer

Cadilac
Escalade
2000>

6000 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Cadilac
SRX
4600 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Chrysler
Sebring
2007>
2000 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Chrysler

Chevrolet
All models
1998>
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Chevrolet
1998>
Vortec
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Even problems with flash lube
Customer

Citroen
Berlingo
1998>
LFX
1800 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Citroen
Xantia
1998?
LFX
1800 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Citroen
C1
2005>
1000 cc 12V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Daewoo
Tacuma
2000>
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins



Dacia
Logan
2006>
1400 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Dacia
Logan
2006>
K7M710
1600 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Daihatsu
Terios
2001>
K3-VE
1300 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Daihatsu
YRV
2001>
K3-VE
1300 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Dodge
Ram 1500/2500
2002>

4700 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Dodge
Caliber
2006>
1800 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Dodge
Caliber
2006>
2000 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Dodge
Caliber
2006>
2400 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Dodge
Journy
2008>
2400 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Dodge
Avenger
2007>
2400 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Dodge
Nitro
06-2007>
3700 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 40.000 km problems with valves/seats while driving only on petrol. Not jet LPG experience, but this will be worse.
DCNL

Ford
Focus
1998-2001
FYDA/B/C/D
1600 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 40.000 km problems
Customer

Ford
Focus
1998>
1800 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Ford
Focus
2005
Duratec AODA
2000 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 50.000 km (25.000 km driven with flash lube)
Customer

Ford
Fiesta
11-2002>
A9JA
1300 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 20.000 km
Customer

Ford
Mondeo
1998>
1800 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Ford
Ka
1250 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Ford
Explorer
1993-1998
4000 cc 12V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Exhaust valves
Customer

Ford
Windstar
1995
3000 cc 12V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Exhaust valves
Customer

General Motors
all types
1999-2008
Vortec
4800 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
intake valves at 80.000 - 100.00 km
Customers

General Motors
all types
1999-2008
Vortec
5300 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
intake valves at 80.000 - 100.00 km
Customers

General Motors
all types
2004-2008
Vortec
3500 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
intake valves at 80.000 - 100.00 km
Customers

Based on practical experiences, Prins has compiled a list of vehicles in which problems with valves/valve seats (excessive wear) may occur at a a low mileage (<100,000 km). This list is updated regularly. To keep this list up-to-date, Prins is asking their clients to report any valve/valve seat problems (service@prins.eu).

A base d’expériences sur le marché, Prins a établi une liste des véhicules susceptibles d’avoir des problemes avec les soupapes/sieges de soupape a un kilométrage réduit (<100.00 km) (usure excessive). Cette liste est mise a jour régulierement. Afin de tenir cette liste a jour, Prins demande ses clients de bien vouloir signaler des problemes de soupapes/sieges de soupape (service@prins.eu).

Op basis van ervaringen uit de markt heeft Prins een lijst samengesteld waarin voertuigen staan vermeld die bij een geringe kilometerstand (<100.000 km) problemen met kleppen/klepzittingen kunnen krijgen (overmatige slijtage). Deze lijst wordt regelmatig bijgewerkt. Om deze lijst up-to-date te houden vraagt Prins zijn klanten om klep/klepzitting problemen te melden (service@prins.eu).

Auf der Grundlage von Erfahrungen aus dem Markt hat Prins eine Liste mit Fahrzeugen zusammengestellt, die bei einer geringen Kilometerzahl (< 100.000 km) Probleme mit den Ventilen/Ventilsitzen bekommen können (übermäßiger Verschleiß). Diese Liste wird regelmäßig aktualisiert. Damit diese Liste ständig aktuell ist, bittet Prins ihre Kunden, Ventil/Ventilsitz-Probleme zu melden (service@prins.eu).

General Motors
all types
1999-2008
Vortec
6000 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
intake valves at 80.000 - 100.00 km
Customers

Honda
All models
2003>
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Hyundai
Sonata
2005>
G4KC
2400 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Hyundai
I30
07-2007>
G4FA
1400 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 40.000 km problems inlet and outet valves
Customer

Hyundai
Trajet
2000-2004
G4JP
2000 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Hummer
All models
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Infinity
FX35
2003>
3500 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Jeep
Grand Cherokee
1999-2005
4700 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer/Importer

Jeep
Grand Cherokee
2005>
4700 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Jeep
Commander
2006>
4700 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
DCNL

Kia
Cee d
12-2006>
G4FA
1400 cc CVVT
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 20.000 Km problems with valves/seats
Customer

Kia
Cee d
12-2006>
G4FC
1600 cc CVVT
Excessive wear of valves/seats
After 20.000 Km problems with valves/seats
Customer

Lexus
RX300
2001>
1MZ-FE
3000cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Mazda
Mazda 6
2002>
All ford engines
Excessive wear of valves/seats
All Ford engines!!!
Customer

Mazda
Tribute
2001-2004
MOT.YF
2000cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Mazda
121
1250 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Mercedes
A-class
2005>
All engines
1500/1700/2000/T (8V)
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Mercedes
B-class
2005>
All engines
1500/1700/2000/T (8V)
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Fit special LPG cylinderhead original Mercedes
Customer

Mercedes
Vaneo
2004-2005

1900 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Mitsubishi
Outlander
2001>
2400 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Importer

Mitsubishi
Grandis
2004>
2400 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Nissan
Maxiam QX
1995>
3000 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Nissan
Primera
1998>
All engines
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Nissan
X-Trail
2003>
2000 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Nissan
X-trail T30
2004 - 2007
QR20
2000 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Exhaust valves at 50.000 km
Customer

Nissan
350 Z
2004-
3500 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Nissan
Murano
2004-
3500 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Opel
All models
2004>
Z14XEP
1400 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Opel
All models
2004>
Z16XEP
1600 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Opel
All models
2004>
Z16XE1
1600 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Opel
All models
2004>
Z16XER
1600 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Opel
All models
2004>
Z18XER
1800 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Peugeot
406
1998>
LFX
1800 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Peugeot
Boxer
1995>
XU10J2/RFW
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Peugeot NL

Peugeot
Partner
1996>
LFX
1800 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Peugeot
107
2005>
1000 cc 12V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Pontiac
Trans Sport
1993-1997
Quad 4
2300 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Porsche
Cayenne
2004>
3200 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Porsche
Cayenne S
2004>
4500 cc 32V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Range Rover
Sport
2006>
supercharged
4400 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
jaguar engine
Customer

Landrover
Discovery
2006>
4200 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Jaguar engine
Customer

Range Rover
2006>
supercharged
4200 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Renault
Laguna
1994-1998
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Renault
Laguna III
2007>
2000 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Nissan engine
Prins

Renault
Espace
1994-1998
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Renault
Espace IV
2002-
3500 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Renault
Vel Satis
2002-
3500 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Renault
Megane 2
2002-
1600 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
inlet+exhaust valves
Customer

Renault
Twingo
2007
1200 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
damage reported at 20.000 km
Customer

Renault
Kangoo
1998-
1400 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Inlet valves
Customer

Saab
9- versions
1998>
16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Seat
Alhambra
2000>
ATM
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Prins

Skoda
Fabia
2000>
AZL
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
inlet valves 120.000 km
Customer

Smart
Forfour
2004>
1100/1300/1500 cc (12V)
Excessive wear of valves/seats
(2 reports from NL)
Customer

Subaru
Legacy Outback
1997-1998
EZ30
3000 cc
Outback
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Older models are also suspicious
Customer

Suzuki
All models without hydrolic valves
2007>
All without hydrolic valves
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Suzuki
Liana
2004>
1600 cc 16V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Toyota
All models
1996>
All models
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Toyota
Corolla
2004>
VVTI
Problems even with flash lube
Customer

Toyota
Aygo
2005>
1000 cc 12V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volkswagen
Sharan
2000>
ATM
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Fit special CNG cylinderhead original Volkswagen
Customer

Volkswagen
Touareg
2003>
3200 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volkswagen
T5
AXA
2000 cc 8V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Fit special CNG cylinderhead original Volkswagen
Cylinderhead Mexico
Customer

Volkswagen
T5
04-2003>
BDL
3200 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volkswagen
Phaeton
2002>
BKL
3200 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volkswagen
Golf
2005>
BUB
3200 cc 24V
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volkswagen
Golf IV
05-2001 - 11-2003
BDE
2800 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Inlet valves after 90.000km

Volkswagen
Different types
BSE
1600 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Cylinderhead Mexico
Customer

Volkswagen
Different types
BME
1200 cc 12V
3 cylinder engine
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Engine/cylinderhead Poland
Customer

Volvo
XC90
2003>
Turbo
2500 cc turbo
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volvo
S60/V70
2000>
Turbo
2400 cc turbo
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Customer

Volvo
S40/V50
2003>
1800 cc
Excessive wear of valves/seats
Problems even with flash lube
Customer





Neuer Kabelbaum 180/700.. : Der Injector Modul ersetzen nach der alte Version 091/0145 (4/8 Zyl.) oder 091/0155 (6Zyl.)
New wiring loom 180/700.. : Replace injector simulator to the old version 091/0145 (4/8 cyl.) or 091/0155 (6cyl.).
Mogelijke problemen hangen af van gebruikte type injectiemodule.

Brand
Model
Year of construction
Engine code
Engine capacity
Problem with module type:
Problem description
Solution
Remarks
Information source (Prins or customer)

Alfa
GTV turbo
2000 cc
180/700XX
Fit "old" module 091/0145
Not more information known
Customer



Citroën
C5 V6
3000 cc
180/700XX
Not every car has a problem!
Fit "old" module 091/0155
Not more information known
Customer

Chevrolet
Chevy V8
(12,7 Ohm)
5700 CC
180/700XX
Fit "old" module 091/0145 (2x)
No more information known
Customer

Chrysler
Le Baron turbo
1989
Peak&Hold injector signal petrol
No solution
Not possible to convert with VSI
Customer

Dodge
Dakota V6
2006 model

3700 CC
Check engine "open circuit"
Parallel 370 Ohm resistor
Prins

Infiniti
FX45 V8
4500 cc
Voltage drops during starting under 6 Volt. Car won't start on petrol with a cold engine (small battery: 60 Ah
Fit "old" module 091/0145
Bigger battery can also be a solution

Fiat
Punto
2006
1,4 70 Kw
1400 cc
Petrol in system above 4500 RPM
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Ford
Scorpio
1999
2,0i
2000 cc
Fit "old" type module 091/0145

Customer



Hyundai
Coupe
2006
1600 cc
Shaking on high revs (little bit of petrol injected while driving on LPG)
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Prins

Jaguar
V8
1998
Fit "old" type module 091/0145

Jaguar
XJ and S
1997
3200 cc and 4000 cc
Check engine on injector circuit
Customer

Jeep
Cherokee
<1991
Peak&Hold injector signal petrol
No solution
Not possible to convert with VSI
Cutsomer

Kia
Carnival
2002
2000 cc
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Mercedes
E240
2000
2400 cc
Check engine
Fit "old" module 091/0155
Customer

Mercedes
E klasse
2002
V8
5000 cc
Drives well on LPG, but on petrol the engine stalls at 4500 rpm
Fit "old" module 091/0145 (2x)
Customer

Mercedes
M111
1993
R4
2000 cc and 2200 cc
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Mercedes
M104
1993
R6
Fit "old" type module 091/0155
Customer

Mercedes
M112
V6
Fit "old" type module 091/0155
Customer

Mercedes
M113
V8
Fit "old" type module 091/0145 (2x)
Customer

Mitsubishi
Lancer
1998
(15,8 Ohm)
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Mitsubishi
Spacewagon
1998
(15,8 Ohm)
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Mitsubishi
Sigma
1992
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Mitsubishi
General
All models <1999
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Renault
Espace
2006
2,0 turbo
2000 cc
Disturbance caused by the ignition at high RPM. Petrol consumption by driving on LPG.
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Problem is still in investigation
Prins

Renault
Espace
3500 cc
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Renault
Velsatis
3500 cc
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Renault
Espace
1991
2200 cc
Peak&Hold injector signal petrol
No solution
Not possible to convert with VSI
Customer

Seat
Alhambra
2004
2000 cc
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Volvo
960
1994
3000 cc
Car does not run on LPG (wrong emulation value for petrol ECU)
Fit "old" type module 091/0155
Customer

Volvo
740
1992
Check engine?
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Volvo
850
1994
2000 cc and 2500 cc
Check engine?
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Volvo
V70
T6
2900 cc
Check engine?
Fit "old" type module 091/0155
Customer

Volvo
460/480 turbo
1700 cc
Ckeck engine?
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer

Volkswagen
Golf
2004
2000 cc
Check engine
Fit "old" type module 091/0145
Customer



Brand
Model
Year of construction
Engine code
Engine capacity
Edition
Problem description
Solution
Remarks
Information source (Prins or customer)

Cadillac
CTS
2006
3.2 V6
Filling the tank to 3/4.
Saab problem
Prins

Chevrolet
Avalange
2007
5.3 V8
-
DTC P0460
Customer

Chryslers
all models
> 1999
-
USA/Canada edition
-
DTC No fuel consumption over miles
Customer

Citroen
C3
?
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 392 module type P

AEB

Citroen
Xsara Picasso
> 2002
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 392 module type P

AEB

GM
all models
2007 -
-
-
-
check engine code 0460 t/m 0464
Please contact Prins for more information/solution
DTC 0460 till 0464 possible
Customer

Ford
All models
2004>
Level indieation goes down during driving
Contact Prins for more information/solution
Customer

Ford
F150
2003
5.4 V8 Supercharger
-
DTC P0460. DTC becomes active after a driving a large distance
Customer

Hyundai
Sonata
2.4 (4cil) 16v G4KC
Australian edition
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
-

Customer

Lincoln
Eviator
?
Check engine on petrol indication
Fit a tank sensor element with a value from 10-160 Ohm. Connect this to the petrol indication
Customer

Mercedes
B-class
2006
all engines
-
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
Mercedes B reset module

Prins

Mercedes
A-class
2005
all engines
-
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
-

Prins

Mercedes
ML
2001-2002
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 391 module type R
fuse nr.7 right under dash, take fuse holder out (green wire = signal wire)
AEB

Mercedes
Vito 119
2007
3.2 V6
Europe
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
-

Customer

Mercedes
Sprinter
06-2006>
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
Driver side fuse box: fuse nr.3 (10 Amp) from instrument panal. Taking out the fuse will reset the level indication
Customer

Peugeot
206
> 2002
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 392 module type P

AEB

Peugeot
307
?
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 392 module type P

AEB

Peugeot
406
> 2002
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 392 module type P

AEB

Peugeot
407
2005
1.8 16v
Europe
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
-

Prins

PSA group
2005 ->
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG.
Prins module 091/0330
Contact Prins for more information
Prins

Renault
Espace
> 2003
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 392 module type P

AEB

Renault
Espace
2001-2002
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 391 module type R

AEB

Renault
Avantime
?
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 391 module type R

AEB

Renault
Vel Satis
?
?
?
Level indication goes down during driving on LPG until tank is empty. Restarting does not reset the level indication.
AEB 391 module type R

AEB

Saab
97x
2006
5.3 V8
Level indication does not go down during driving on LPG but after a while the indication will be switched off. No reset afterstarting, no error code will become active.
Filling the tank to 3/4.
Saab problem
Prins



Brand
Model
Year of construction
Engine code
Engine capacity
Edition
Problem description
Solution
Remarks
Information source (Prins or customer)

Ford
Mustang
2005-
V8
-
-
Customer

Ford
Freestyle
2006
3000 cc V6
-
Prins module does not work
Prins

Ford
Mavarick
2004-
duratec
110 Kw
Petrol pressure becomes too high -> bad running on petrol after switching
Customer

GM
All models
2007->
check engine
Fuel return line
Contact Prins
Customer

Hummer
H2
2007->
6200 cc
check engine
fuel return MAXQUIP
Please contact MAXQUIP CANADA
Customer

Jaguar
<2003
2.5 V6 / 3.0 V6 / 4.2 V8

AGS simulator: contact AGS Belgium
Not possible with Prins simulator. I.c.w. the AGS simulator, vehicle does not enter limp-mode, but it is possible that a DTC will be set.
AGS Belgium

Jaguar
2003->
2.5 V6 / 3.0 V6 / 4.2 V8

AGS simulator: contact AGS Belgium
Not possible with Prins simulator. I.c.w. the AGS simulator, vehicle does not enter limp-mode, but it is possible that a DTC will be set.
AGS Belgium

Mazda
Tribute
2007
2300 cc 16V
110 Kw
Petrol pressure becomes too high -> bad running on petrol after switching
-



Volvo
V70 R
2003->
2.5L Turbo 220 kW
-
DTC petrol pressur range/performance. Car changes between 2 different fuel pressures.

Volvo
XC90
2006
4.4 V8
No solution by Prins
AGS belgium has a fuel return solution. A DTC is possible. Please contact AGS for more information



Brand
Model
Year of construction
Engine code
Engine capacity
Edition
Problem description
Solution
Remarks
Information source (Prins or customer)

Audi
A4 Avant
2003
ALT
2000 cc
Shaking during warming up phase
Special software icw temp simulation See also AUD0107
Results are good
Prins

Chevrolet
Trailblazer
2001-
LL8
4200 cc 24V
Bad idling behaviour / stalling
Special software 041/95050 and: Nylon hoses far enough inside manifold. See also CHE1007
Results are good
Prins

Dodge
Dacota
2002-
6 cyl.
4000 cc
stalling after short accelerating
Special software 041/95120 icw extra MAP signal. See also DOD1006
Results not bad, but Prins does not advise to convert this car
Prins

Dodge
Ram 1500 & 2500
08-2005-
8 cyl.
5700 cc Hemi
In some cases injector errors will be set in the EOBD system
Solder extra resitors in the wiringloom of the injection module to change the replacement resistor value
Results are good
Prins

Fiat
Coupe turbo (5 cyl.)
2000
175A3
2000 cc
Shaking during accelerating and when the car goes into cut-of phase
Fit a turbo extension kit icw a special programmed ECU. See also FIA0207
This car is very sensitive on petrol. The problem on LPG is not 100% vanished
Prins

Opel
Vectra turbo
2005>
Z20NET
2000 cc
Shaking during accelerating and when the car goes into cut-of phase.
Fit a turbo extension kit icw a special programmed ECU. See also OPE0207
Results are good
Prins

Volkswagen
Passat
2001
AZM
2000 cc
Shaking during accelerating
Program the ECU that the Inj_in and Inj_out times are exactly the same. See also VOL0107
Results are good
Prins

Subaru
Legacy outback
1999
EJ25
2500 cc
Shaking during accelerating
Program the ECU that the Inj_in and Inj_out times are exactly the same. See also SUB0307
Results are good
Prins

Jackie - 10-06-2009, 12:16

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Albo wstawię tutaj :D

Ja cię zabiję.....Ponad minutę przewijałem stronę ;)
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Ponad minutę przewijałem stronę ;)


Kulawą masz rolkę w myszy :evil:

A tak w ogóle Tomek gdzie tam pisze coś o Lancerze? Bo jedyny jaki znalazłem to jakiś 1998 rok.



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